iPhone --> opinions

[richybaker]

I start this topic in order to gather info and opinions about the new iPhone, launched by Apple Inc. in January.


It will arrive Europe in December, and Asia later (i think), therefore i spank ur tongues with:

Is iPhone the best mobile phone in da market?
is da best gathering of a phone, PDa and an ipod (music player)?

Is possible to kick Sony Ericsson/Nokia ass in phone market?



Bring on ur infos and opinions.
richy

INFO:
http://www.apple.com/iphone/
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YgW7or1TuFk
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[maxrush]

I'd say "Most Definitely"!!

After watching the youtube video you linked Richy, I have kinda become a fan of the touch sensitive phone. Dunno when I'd be able to actually see one, but lets hope they come to Asia asap.

The Mac OS should be some thing new to look forward for Mobile phone users world wide, and the Touchscreen interface itself is so phenomenally different from the so called "touch screen phones" of today.

Good Luck to Apple for their Ingenious Invention. And lets hope we can get our hands on one as soon as possible.

[Ritzy]

I definitely agree with u maxrush... i hope it comes to asia asap... but its gonna cost a hell for sure... after watching this video i'm head over heels for iPhone...

[maxrush]

Well, we here in India not having the contract system have had to pay full for all the phones always as it is, the Iphone 4gb being $500, well I remember paying more than that for a Nokia 6600, and consequently every phone I've bought after that.

As for some more stuff on the Iphone:

5 Reasons to Love the IPhone

5 Reasons not to

[seawit]

Is iPhone the best mobile phone in da market?

Probably so far it is...

is da best gathering of a phone, PDa and an ipod (music player)?

Also so far it is...

Is possible to kick Sony Ericsson/Nokia ass in phone market?

Nope. Both have their share of it and maybe the iPhone will introduce a new sector. After all, it only misses two features: a beer bottle opener and a portable toaster.
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[freak4mobiles]

I tend to disagree with all you guys... May be you guys are going towards the looks but for a freak like me its feature above all and i-phone does not have even some basic functions....

Have a look at the links!!
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2007/iphone-name-en.shtml
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2007/iphone-sms-en.shtml

oh man i-phone's every shortcoming is being counted!! and seeing some of them i would like to say that nokia 6600 or 7610 were much better phones than this piece of metal junk!!! just look at this guy from mobile-review site pointing out every shitty feature(or no feature) in i-phone!!! apple sucks big time!! should have stayed to makin i-pods!!

Just read about its sms capabilities!! even ancient nokia phones were better!! hahaha!! just cant understand how its the most hyped electronic device??

Here is what i liked about the article:

Smartphone definition:
a handset running on a non-proprietary operating system that allows creation of additional applications by third-party developers, while all tools required for that are provided by the OS developer. In a word, you can install third-party programs, increasing overall functionality. So happens that smartphones powered by one and the same OS are released by different makers, so here comes another, indirect token – more than one manufacturer of such devices

Java, being a separate multi-platform standard, meets the definition above in some way, but doesn’t offer those device management abilities offered by developers of stand-alone OS. At the same time, standardization of Java goes at full tilt and perhaps the moment, when the borderline between Java-programs and native applications is no more will come pretty soon.

Now let’s take a once-over of the iPhone’s abilities. Can you install own Java-applications on it? The answer is NO – this standard is not supported. And what about applications from the desktop OS?No way. In spite of the dreams (that many had) about identical OS versions found in the phone and desktops, there is no such thing here. It appears that the difference is even more tremendous than between the desktop Safari and that the iPhone comes preinstalled with.

It turns out that no applications can be installed on the phone, so the user is limited to the pool of applications drawn by the maker in the first place. And in this sense, the handset doesn’t qualify as a smartphone by any means and calling it this way is somewhat ridiculous. What is more, MAC OS itself can’t turn a feature phone into a smartphone – it simply skimps on features.

And now, check this out, what apple fans (a bunch of morons) say:
*)Only smartphones sport huge touch-sensitive displays and on-screen keyboards. A very weak point, as the market offers loads of touchscreen-based devices that have nothing to do with smartphones. For example, the Nokia 6108 with its handwriting recognition for some Asian countries, even though it runs S40 by Nokia.
*)This is a smartphone, for it carries MAC OS onboard, just like the one in desktops. Hmm, really, really pitiful argument – if applications from desktop PCs could actually work here, then it would be a smartphone. But in this case, any OS would do – in any event, it is totally different from what the developers are experienced in, so there is no way for them to write own applications.
*)The feature pack and suite of applications clearly indicate that it is a smartphone. Apparently, people spreading this opinion have never encountered real smartphones with substantially greater default functionality. It is not even worth talking about.

Ahahahahahahah.
Apparently the american moron apple fans can be fed this bullshit (the iphone). But in Asia it doesn't work man, it just doesn't work !
I just can't wait the iphone launch in asia. They will then reach the conclusion they had better taken the damn thing and shuve it up they're back door (a nice way of saying anus).
And i will laugh my ass of then !

And one more thing to note if u haven't read the whole article:
The iphone has bluetooth, but apparently u cannot use it to send any kind of file to another bluetooth enabled phone !
This is the cherry on the cake, so all u morons that bought this junk, enjoy u're pitiful wannabe for a smartphone !

And to think i once read a topic somewhere "E90 vs. iphone". It is like comparing Einstein with a skizofrenic person ! Sure u can compare them, but the comparation in itself is nothing more than a way to laugh at the impaired person !

Im soryy Maxrush about the bad words, but it is the pure and simple truth, even if sometime it hurts like hell...
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[seawit]

I think that you are seeing things from a wrong perspective, freak4mobiles. It is normal to launch a first crappy version of anything... then a second less crappy product and so on and so on... They learned this well from Microsoft!

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[freak4mobiles]

I am not seeing it in a wrong prespective. Actually its Apple which is making me pissed by claiming that i-phone is a smartphone.... I-phone is a very basic phone with a very good UI. Thats it...
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[maxrush]

I guess we have to do a lot more research before we actually go shelling out money for the Iphone. Also lets now take the phone as a non smartphone device, as a stand alone device if I may say so...

Is it worth the money for being a stand alone device not being a smartphone?

What do you think?

After reading the Reviews I have come to the conclusion for myself that this phone is basically just and only just for Fashion... It doesnt have even the basic features...

Some shocking missing features:

* One cant forward messages
* One cant delete individual messages, either delete all or keep all
* No sms Delivery Reports
* No file transfer thru BT with other phones
* No new message logos or missed calls logos on standby screen

And the best of all

* No ability to use custom wallpapers!!! Stare at the same wallpaper all the phones life!!!

Many more but i just cant come to terms with the eccentric thinking of Apple calling it a phone that will redefine the Mobile Phone Future... It will redefine it definitely, defining a cell phone as a useless gadget that claims to be the best but not do much.

[Ritzy]

Ahum ahum.... I think i'll wait for some other good looking & smartphone rather than buying an iPhone.... Atleast till Apple doesnt overcome these problems....

[freak4mobiles]

Thats a very wise decision if you are going to stick with it... I phone is nothing but a beautifully dressed wh*re.....My P990i with so many problems is still better than iphone!!!!

For me a smart phone is something which i can change according to my needs, in which i can install programmes i like.... But iphone is still light years behind it.....

I phone = I-pod+ Seimens S4
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[richybaker]

As far as i can see, iPod has its limitations.

It has flaws and above all is starting a new age of technology.
either agreeing or not, Apple do make breakthroughs everytime dey launch a new product.

Agreing or not it is a smartphone (i dont really care), iPhone i believe is opening a new breach in the market:
may not compete with smartphones an mobile phones market yet, but is eager to divide and confuse dem.

cuz dats what apple does...all the time.

Therefore, i see dis like a breakthrough - being buyable or not for now - dat (will) make smartphones look like toys with too mux keypads.

Seing for the whole buzz in da market... the future wont let me speak alone.




Next releases will be crucial to iPhone sucess.
it is already...but it will become a global phenomena i am afraid.
quite similar to ipod.

(remember dat ppl argued ipod would never be sucessful cuz u needed to convert all ur cds and use iTunes?
and now?
yes,dats it.)

cheers ppl. im loving this debate.
thnx for ur opinions.

i want more!
richy
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[seawit]

I wonder how you can manage to steal a few words from my own mouth and multiply them so well, richy.

The iPhone is a real breakthru and it will be as a starting point for new technologies that will follow its guidelines. As richy put it so well, Apple has used to do that, for ages. Maybe it won't be the best product but surely it is, right now, the first one, and others quickly will follow.

But surely that as a phone... well... i wouldn't buy it at all. Maybe i would consider it but i would always tend to buy another one for now.
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[freak4mobiles]

Yeah guys... I agree with you on this point that Apple has brought a completely new technology in Market... The multi touch interface of iphone is really revolutionary. But in the process they forget that in addition to interface, today's users also need functions in a phone... But may be Iphone is not meant for power users but for general users who just make calls, listen to music and take a snap here and there..... But for power users like me, its a total piece of crap..... May be the 3rd or 4th generation of Ipod will get some of the missing things i already mentioned in previous phone and then may be it can classify as a smartphone as Apple is claiming it to be .... But till then
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[seawit]

I’ve been hearing from a number of sources that the European iPhone will NOT do 3G. The main reason being stated is poor battery life. It seems that Apple is more concerned with how long the iPhone will run and less concerned about the speed at which a user can surf. No word yet on the battery life difference with 3G radio built-in, but it’s definitely a plausible explanation for why there may not be a 3G iPhone this holiday season.

Oh well... no further comments.
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